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Thank you for accessing our Orphan Heater Page.
 All of these heat pumps are available but they don't meet my standards.
(Actually 2 are not available because I need my sleep at night)

Please call us for prices, If you can't find the brand that you need

 If the heater that you were interested in was not listed, it means that it isn't one of my favorites. Some possible reasons are:

The manufacturer is not based in the USA and they have not figured out how to do a service call in the continental USA in less than a month. There are many private labels from the mainstream manufacturers. Pool stores are famous for that. It is always best to have the manufacturers name on the heater for warranty work later. Private labels can be from different manufacturers from year to year and make everything confusing and difficult

Some companies have not performed in what I think is a responsible manner with warranty support and general customer service. I get the email from customers with problems with heaters that they bought elsewhere. I do my best to help out. I know what manufacturers are doing what they should and back away from those that fall below my standards.

Some manufacturers don't want their prices shown because it makes it hard for their pool builder friends who want to sell a $3000 heat pump for $6000 to a new home buyer. They are protecting the contractor and not the end user. That goes against my beliefs. I would rather you buy a heater and get a European vacation for the same price.

Some are so small and new to the industry that there is no track record of quality and reliability. It is too soon to see how they will handle things years from now. Some of these heaters have lifetime warranties on some parts. You need a way to judge how they will perform. Past behavior is one of the best ways to tell. When I sell a heater, I go with my personal experience over 23 years. I have watched the manufacturers and the equipment in the field. This is an investment that will last many years and there is no reason to gamble.

Some have voided warranties. I get emails about voided warranties from people asking for help. None of my customers ever had that happened to them. I won't allow it. If you live in a northern state and forgot to drain the heater for the winter, you might be in trouble though.

Some claim that their product advertising information is copyrighted and trademarked material. They want to use it only on their own literature and web site. What can I say, I don't understand how someone who is proud of their product wouldn't want the world to know about it. If the performance numbers and heater features are first class how on earth could they not want to spread the word.

Some don't want any information listed about their heaters, so that it's hard for their customers to compare them and possibly see better numbers from another brand.

Some I just don't like.

Finally, I can get you any brand in the world probably for less than you will find locally. There might be reasons that you absolutely need a certain brand. Maybe it is a insurance damage replacement or maybe your brother has one and maybe he's buying your heater.

Please call us for a price. We want your business. As long as you know how I feel I think that I have done my job. There are only one or two that I won't sell at all because I really want you to be happy and swim in warm water for many years to come.

Sincerely,
Marcus Miller, President
Poolheatpumps.com

The examples below are real. You can contact them if you have any questions about their experiences.

 
Mr. Miller, Let me start out buy saying from what I have read on your web site and when and if we are ready to buy a new heat pump we will most likely purchase through you.

However, we are a victim of poor quality and service. Our pump is 2 years old and is non repairable. We have an (withheld name) serial number xxxxxx per the company that installed it xxxxxx in Virginia the unit had a malfunctioning switch that would not allow all the water to drain properly for winterization. Therefore, our unit froze. Since it froze it is non repairable and non functioning. The manufacturer will not offer any discount or warranty on to a second owner and denies there is an issue with the switch. So here we sit buying a new home with a pool and no heater. I would never recommend purchasing an xxxxxx heater to anyone.

Please post this and please do not recommend this heater to anyone.
Frustrated in Virginia
  thx
Leigh
lsherwoodmdm@aol.com
 
Dear Leigh:
It is good to hear back from you. I hope that you and your family are well. I hate e-mails like this. I am sorry that you had to go through this. As you can see they are not my favorite company. I don't advertise them. I would love to put your letter on the site if you want send e-mails to people telling people about your experience. Most of my favorite companies help out in some way when a customer goes through something like this. I will give you a $300.00 credit on any heater on the site when you are ready. Again I am sorry.


Please remember we were the first on the Internet over 7 years ago and have been in business for over 23 years. We should be the lowest price on the Internet, and pride ourselves on 100% customer service. We are here for you.
Sincerely,
Marcus Miller
http://www.poolheatpumps.com/

360 568 3768

 

Dear Mr. Miller
 
    I think I talked to you last year about the problem I was having with a leak in the heat exchanger. I purchased a xxxx from xxxxx and in two years the exchanger started leaking. They said it was caused because the pool chemicals were so bad. which was all a bunch of fabricated bull shit. I retired from Bayer Chemical Corp.  I worked in the utilities dept. and was certified in water treatment and have worked with water most of my life, but xxxxxx lied from day one just so them wouldn't have to repair the heat pump. When we talked last winter about this time, you said that you would give me one heck of a deal, and understood what kind of people I was working with. Well now is the time.
I just need for you to advise me of what I need to put in and give me the best price you can come up with. You can even have the old xxxxxx unit if you want it. Ha! Ha!  You can either e-mail me or call me.
 
Sincerely Yours

Sarasota, Fl January 2006

Dear Sir 
 
I currently run a successful airconditioning company on the Costa Del Sol and we also supply heat pumps for pool heating. At The moment we use xxxxxx heat pumps but are not entirely happy with their service to us. I have several questions to ask...

Jeffrey King M.Inst.R. 
Compass Airconditioning